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From:  "JOHN S. SUAREZ" <johnsuarez@yahoo.com>
Date:  Tue Aug 17, 2004  10:05 am
Subject:  On our banning from the FelineFanciersPhils Yahoo! Group

 
 

August 17, 2004

  

Hello all!

 As you may have known by now, I and Phillippe had been banned from the felinefanciersphils Yahoo! Group for reasons unbeknown to us, but only to the one who actually ordered the banning and his/her cohorts. 

The cause of the banning, I surmise, could only be our echoing of concerns of members about the election of directors which is now much overdue.  I abhor this very act, which, to my mind is, a curtailment of my constitutionally-protected freedom of expression.  Even our very constitution and our society do not discourage its people to think and to ask.

 Is it a sin, then, to be thinking critically in this group?  Is it taboo here to speak one’s mind, and bring issues of concern to the table to be discussed in the open?  To be discussed by all concerned individuals who can contribute to the discussion for the benefit of our group? Is thinking, by itself, frowned upon by those who lead us?

 We can be muted in group-sponsored forum(s), but truth has its own energy.  We are thus bringing the matter over to be discussed by anyone who is concerned with what the direction the catfancy in the Philippines will take; initially, in this group, and our magpupusa forum which can be found at http://magpupusa.proboards33.com.  We will endeavor to look for other sites in the internet that would welcome the democratic intellectual exchange on issues of general interest.  We will keep you posted on where this will happen.

 In the meantime, please feel free to read and comment on the exchanges that occurred in the felinefanciersphils Yahoo! Group that precipitated our banning.

 Thank you very much and I hope that you will take time out to comment on this.

 

 

Very truly yours,

John S. Suarez & Phillippe P. Chieng

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From:  "Roumayne Juan" <roumayne@don-juans.com>
Date:  Tue Aug 17, 2004  10:19 pm
Subject:  CFA's First Show in Mainland China!

 
An article taken from persian and exotics website. I just wanted to share with you guys some information about other cat fanciers in Asia. If you will notice, CCF or China Cat Fanciers was only formed in 2002. Technically a very young club, and YET, they were able to hold their first CFA Cat Show last March 2004. How I wish our local cat club was this active considering our local cat club has been founded far earlier than CCF. What's the use of being a CFA affiliated club when we can't even hold CFA shows locally??

Sabertooth

CFA's First Show in Mainland China!

by Tony Chan, Gogocats Exotics & British Shorthairs

CFA wrote another page in their history book on March 6-7, 2004, when the first CFA-sanctioned cat show in mainland China took place in Beijing.

The China Cat Fanciers Cat Club

The show was held by the China Cat Fanciers (CCF). CCF is the first CFA cat club established in mainland China.

Since their formation as a club in 2002, CCF has been working tirelessly towards producing their first show.

The routine arrangements necessary for a CFA-format show were a huge challenge to the young group of cat fanciers - especially as their first language is not English.

The normal demands that go with holding any cat show were made even more complex due to the need to address concerns about bird flu and Sars in the country. However, the club members were able to overcome all the problems and made their dream come true.

The show was not supported by the government and a sponsor was not confirmed until just a couple weeks before the show when Whiskas Cat Food came on board.

Promoting CFA in China

The judges for the special event were Pam Delabar and Don Williams.

Besides the task of judging the cats, Pam and Don wanted to provide information about CFA and guidance to the local cat fancy.

With this in mind, they headed several discussion sessions with groups of cat fanciers from other provinces in China with an eye to helping them establish more CFA clubs in the very near future.
 

The show hall was located in the Guodo Pet Park in Beijing. Although not in the urban center of Beijing city, it was a very attractive venue with incredible natural lighting - a real plus for most fanciers.

Whiskas, the sole sponsor, provided their full support to the event, including signage and prizes for the participants.

CFA has recently set up a new program called Ancestral Tracking Services. For countries of the world who are new to CFA, this program was established to help their cat fanciers show and register their cats in CFA.

The program allows for a special "Novice" class at an International CFA-sponsored show for cats that are not yet registered in CFA. Most of the cats entered at the CCF show fell into this class in championship. There were 120 cats present at the show, representing 20 breeds. For most of the people present, this was the first CFA show they had ever attended, and their support and interest was enthusiastic.

The Show

The exhibitors appreciated and treasured every award - with some of them even asking the judges to sign their flat ribbons.

Besides the usual ribbons, two special awards were sponsored and donated by the Alamo City Cat Club of Texas.

The club donated rosettes for the Best Longhair In Show and the Best Shorthair in Show respectively.

Best Longhair In Show

The Best Longhair in Show went to a black Persian named GC, RW Boberan's Dark Night of Xiang.

Dark Night was a regional winner in the USA last year before coming to China. The cat was in full coat and beautifully presented, a testament to the grooming skills of his new owner, Minnie Yang.

Best Shorthair in Show

The Best Shorthair in Show was a British Shorthair kitten named Annamee's Lanlan Alice.

Alice is owned by Xiaoming Yan.

The kitten is from the first litter bred by her owner, combining bloodlines mainly from the USA and Australia.

The British Shorthair is a breed which has gained popularity in Asia in the past several years and this win bodes well for the breed's future in the country.

To commemorate its inaugural show in mainland China, CCF designed a full color show catalogue which included pictures of most of the cats being exhibited.

It is a beautiful keepsake of a memorable event.

The Future
 

This show is only the beginning...

Over time, more cat fanciers of mainland China will be able to successfully register their beautiful cats with CFA.

Through the efforts of these dedicated cat fanciers, CFA continues to meet the challenge of expanding into new countries.

Perhaps one day, it may be possible for a national winning cat to be born and shown in mainland China.

As advisor for the show, I was honored to be able to witness this historical moment for China and for CFA.

 

 

 
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From:  "JOHN S. SUAREZ" <johnsuarez@yahoo.com>
Date:  Fri Sep 10, 2004  12:12 am
Subject:  FFPI Yahoo! Groups Banning, etc.

 

Hello Group!

I had a telephone conversation with one of the FFPI directors, and was told that our being banned from the FFPI Yahoo! Groups was not an act of the Board of Directors as a board, but was an act by the Group’s owner/moderator, Cristina Pecson.  I would like to find out from her directly if this is so, but since we’re already banned, we have no means to do so.  Maybe we will have another update on the felinefanciersphils.com site, to get to the bottom of this. 

I’m afraid a reconciliation did not take place as they wouldn’t want to admit to any mistakes, and would just like us to believe that everything was just a misunderstanding.  I would’ve believed this to be so if they approached us after learning of our grievances when we were banned, and when they made a fool out of Phillippe.  They did not even bother to call, so there wasn’t any miscommunication at all.  They plainly thought that like others they have offended, we will just stay mum about the whole thing.  They were dead wrong.  I, personally, snap back when provoked.

Oh well… as I’ve said time and again, I have realized a painful truth that I do not need them and their club.

 Just FYI…

 

Wyldcat

 

 
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From:  "JOHN S. SUAREZ" <johnsuarez@yahoo.com>
Date:  Fri Sep 10, 2004  8:16 am
Subject:  RE: [magpupusa] Re: FFPI Yahoo! Groups Banning, etc.


 

Thanks David!

I have e-mailed her directly at crispecson@yahoo.com.  I told her that we need an explanation within 72 hours or we use other venues to give our side of the story and tell everyone what we learned about the banning.  I told her that as a journalist, I expect her to be the first one to have high respect for people’s freedom of expression.

If she doesn’t reply within the timeframe I gave, then my letter will, as usual, be posted in this e-group and at felinefanciersphils.com.  Her choice.

 Wyldcat

 


From: David Dizon Jr. [mailto:n0b0dy00@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 2:52 AM
To: magpupusa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [magpupusa] Re: FFPI Yahoo! Groups Banning, etc.

 

Hey John,

I think you can email groupname-moderator@yahoogroups.com or better yet, her yahoo account is crispecson@yahoo.com. Hope that helps you get in touch with her.

David

 

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From:  "Roumayne Juan" <roumayne@don-juans.com>
Date:  Fri Sep 10, 2004  8:20 am
Subject:  Re: [magpupusa] Re: FFPI Yahoo! Groups Banning, etc.


 
Simply put... either she DOESNT CARE or she DOESNT HAVE A BACKBONE to support that head of hers... such a shame...
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: [magpupusa] Re: FFPI Yahoo! Groups Banning, etc.

 

Thanks David!

 I have e-mailed her directly at crispecson@yahoo.com.  I told her that we need an explanation within 72 hours or we use other venues to give our side of the story and tell everyone what we learned about the banning.  I told her that as a journalist, I expect her to be the first one to have high respect for people’s freedom of expression.

If she doesn’t reply within the timeframe I gave, then my letter will, as usual, be posted in this e-group and at felinefanciersphils.com.  Her choice.

 Wyldcat

 

 
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From:  "JOHN S. SUAREZ" <johnsuarez@yahoo.com>
Date:  Fri Sep 10, 2004  8:33 am
Subject:  RE: [magpupusa] Re: FFPI Yahoo! Groups Banning, etc.


 

Hello Mayne!

Aga natin ah!

Yeah, Nakapagtataka, because I remember that the reason she previously resigned from the government-controlled television station she was working for was that she experienced first-hand the massive cheating that happened during the Cory-Marcos election.

I think we will find out for real what happened, if she ever replies.  Otherwise, it’s other venues for the letter, hahaha.  Let’s see how she’d react to that.  I told you, I can go soooo low just not to leave any stone unturned!

 

Wyldcat

 

 
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From:  "JOHN S. SUAREZ" <johnsuarez@yahoo.com>
Date:  Fri Sep 10, 2004  8:36 am
Subject:  RE: [magpupusa] FFPI Yahoo! Groups Banning, etc.

 

Oh, I forgot!  She also told me that there is no truth whatsoever about the accusations being hurled at them that they want to remain in their posts.  Her exact words are “sukang suka na kami…”  If that is so, why didn’t they find ways and means to hold the elections on time, when they can get all the proxy forms they wish anyways.  Hmmmmm and why bother getting the proxy forms when they don’t intend to use the authority to add votes to them?

Just thinking…

  

Wyldcat

 

 
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From:  "Roumayne Juan" <roumayne@don-juans.com>
Date:  Fri Sep 10, 2004  10:28 am
Subject:  Re: [magpupusa] Re: FFPI Yahoo! Groups Banning, etc.

 
 
Medyo maaga nga... LOL
 
Hay naku, wala akong bilib sa kahit sino sa kanila. They aren't worth CRAP.
 
Hindi lang kaya ng heart ko ang mga ugali nila. Kakaiba! And to think, they say the youth learns from their ELDERS... yan ba ang ELDERS na dapat pagtularan? LOADS OF BULL!!
 
What bad examples of older citizens with have huh? I am soooooooooooo AMUSED with them.
 
Sabertooth

 

 
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From:  "Roumayne Juan" <roumayne@don-juans.com>
Date:  Fri Sep 10, 2004  10:29 am
Subject:  Re: [magpupusa] FFPI Yahoo! Groups Banning, etc.


 
Sukang suka my ASS! Eh di magresign sila kung suka na sila sa position. LAME LAME LAME!! Sino niloko nila? Baka 5 years old na bata pwede nila lokohin... I think it slipped their NARROW and STALE minds that they are dealing with people who actually have functioning brains.
 
GEEZ!

 

 
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From:  "JOHN S. SUAREZ" <johnsuarez@yahoo.com>
Date:  Fri Sep 10, 2004  11:48 pm
Subject:  More on FFPI Yahoo! Groups Banning


 

September 10, 2004

 

Hello everyone!

I am afraid that I cannot take this sitting down and be fried by those in power like a clueless sitting duck.

After that telephone conversation with one of the board members of the FFPI last night, and after learning that It was Cristina Peczon’s own initiative as owner/moderator of the felinefanciersphils Yahoo! Group, I took it upon myself to contact Ms. Peczon because I have very high regards for her.  I couldn’t believe that a broadcast journalist and media practitioner would act in such a manner, disregarding the right of freedom of expression of an individual, which she should have been upholding.

To make the story short, I contacted everyone I know who I thought would possibly have her cellular phone number, and I was able to get it.  I called her right then and there so that I can set things straight, and so that I can get to the bottom of all these.  She answered her phone after what I recall to be at least eight rings, but upon knowing that it was I who was calling, she told me that she was driving, and in her own words, “I will get back to you.”

That was about 2 in the afternoon.  My clock is now 11:40 p.m., and if she is still driving, then she might either be having an extreme form of drive-tripping, or must’ve gone to Baguio and back, and is having a grand tour of the Metropolitan highways.  At any rate, I pleaded her via text messages to return my call or reply to my e-mail, because I would still like to think that there was a mistake somewhere…

My looking-at-the-bright-side-pollyanna self is running out of good thoughts to think about, and my instinct towards self-preservation is kicking in.  I’m thinking horrible things about her that I’d rather withhold for the time being, in case maybe she surprises me and clarifies things for me.

Would you like to speculate with me here?  This is an experience we have to learn from for practical life application.

 

Thanks.

 

 

 
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From:  "JOHN S. SUAREZ" <johnsuarez@yahoo.com>
Date:  Mon Sep 13, 2004  3:37 pm
Subject:  RE: [magpupusa] With Amendments - FFPITrustees02

 
 

Hello Jan!

Thank you so much for your vote of confidence, but what we’re sure of at the moment is that there is no going back from this fight.

We are going to let these people know that not all people can be kicked around and stay mum; that some people do snap back when their principles and rights are trampled upon.

We intend to maintain our membership with the prestigious and credible international cat clubs that we now belong to, and getting out of FFPI with all its secrecy and violations to the very By-Laws the officers are obliged to serve.

As to forming a new club, nobody knows, but the point is, it should be led with efficiency, by officers who will devote time and effort, despite their busy schedules.  We all know that these positions are not pausitions of power, but positions-of-trust that is only conveyed to them as members see fit.  These are thankless and financially rewardless positions, that not being paid for the job cannot be used as an excuse to be sloppy.

However, it is no secret that this group, MAGPUPUSA is by no means an e-group only, but members are serious in helping the state of all animals, starting with pets.  Our first formal activity would be donating catfood/dogfood to CARA, and you and pork are most welcome to pitch in.

CIAO, or should I say MEOWWWWW…..

 

WYLDCAT

 

 

 
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From:  "JOHN S. SUAREZ" <johnsuarez@yahoo.com>
Date:  Mon Sep 13, 2004  3:51 pm
Subject:  RE: [magpupusa] More on FFPI Yahoo! Groups Banning

 

Hallo Jan!

To date, Carol has been sent as emissary to tell us to stop harassing Ms. Peczon, saying that she is connected with the Media and she can ruin the club, its officers, and Phillippe and I.  We were told to formally apologize to Ms. Peczon so that this will not go further, and that we will not be sorry.

However, we find it impossible to apologize when our messages to her have been left unanswered.  She has never officially admitted, nor denied being responsible for our banning from the felinefanciersphils Yahoo! Group.  What we have at the moment is only Teresita Tong’s statement that they (the Board) have no knowledge of the banning, and that it was purely Cristina’s decision to ban us from the group because, in the words of Teresita Tong, Cristina “found your (Phillippe and mine) messages derogatory to the club.”

However, we still stand by our previous argument:  If she indeed found our messages derogatory by her standards, why did she post them in the first place, when she has the power to not post them, since messages are moderated (i.e. posted only with the moderator’s approval).

We find it unusual to approve our messages for posting, decide that these messages are derogatory to the club, then ban us with no prior warnings or reprimands.  That, to our mind, is the height of dictatorship, which tramples upon our basic constitutional right to freedom of expression.

We’d like to assure you guys, though, that if in this fight of principles, we find that we have wrongfully done something to anyone, then we will be humble enough to admit our mistakes and apologize.  Privately, as well as publicly.

As to the matter of a new club being formed,  again, MAGPUPUSA which is an informal gathering of genuine catlovers, is already very active and will very soon do its first project.  Again, you are welcome to volunteer and help.

Regards,

WYLDCAT

 

 
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From:  "JOHN S. SUAREZ" <johnsuarez@yahoo.com>
Date:  Wed Sep 22, 2004  11:38 pm
Subject:  A transcript of text messages exchanged between me and Teresita Tong, Wednesday, September 22, 2004, p.m.

 

“The issue on pedigree was already taken up with u by Pandit and Carolyn.  The club stands firm on the issuance of certified pedigree only to the 4th generation of litter of an enlisted cat.  Our conversation was my personal stand.”

-Teresita Tong

 09/22/2004 / 09:12:47pm

 

“But u told us that you have the authority to issue certified pedigrees even tho partial, and had we talked to u directly rather than with Carol or even Pandit, then d certified pedigrees would have been issued at once.  U told me this which you repeated to Philip.  At any rate, if that is the decision of your board then give us a formal written reply, as our experience is that none of your word individually has any value. Pls give us ur board’s official reply in 24 hrs. Our letters are already rotting in your offices.  Be respectful of others if you want to be respected back, and be a person of ur word.  Cc: carolyn chuasoto, rhodora zamora.”

-John Suarez

 09/22/2004 / 09:36:29pm

 

“I told u, u could have asked me then I could ask Carolyn to make a partial pedigree but not a certified pedigree.  Who are you to question me of respect for people and question my being? U don’t know me John.  I have good intention for everyone when I talked to you but it seems you have misread me along the line.  I am deeply hurt that I wish I have nothing more to do with you.”

-Teresita Tong

 09/22/2004 / 10:14:44pm

 

“U wouldn’t be questioned without cause. Neway, u didn’t say it then, the way u txtd now. At any r8, nothing u say is of any value to me anymore. Just have ur board reply our letters. It’s at the very least, d decent thing for u to do.  Besides, it only hurts when it’s true, n didn’t u hear me the last time? I dnt want to be associated with the likes of u and ur lot. Imagine, suggesting that I breed my bengals with my persians just to see what the kittens will look like? The horrors! Just in case selective amnesia kicks in again, it happend sa megamall during the Garfield show n before that on the fone. And I challenge u to deny it in public.”

Note: cc’d the following people:  Carolyn Chuasoto, Rhodora Zamora and Mariano Zamora

-John Suarez

 09/22/2004 / 10:30:21pm

 

“I’m giving u n ur board 24hrs to officially and 4maly reply to our letters, or the letters ur board chose to ignore will go public. cc: Carolyn, rhodora, mariano.”

-John Suarez

 09/22/2004 / 11:35:52pm

 

 

 
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Date:  Thu Sep 23, 2004  1:55 am
Subject:  Re: A transcript of text messages exchanged between me and Teresita Tong, Wednesday, September 22, 2004, p.m.


 

i John,

Just take it easy, be patient with the board coz you know most of them are in their 30's and 40's so u know some of them u have to understand na lang and disregard some of their messages, hayaan mo na! (i know its hard to forget what they have said and done to you guys but forgive them na lang, kill them with your humility hehe!!). I think what you guys should do is set up a meeting with them again, yes again, tell them youll apologize formally na lang so theyll meet up with u coz i know if youre going to tell them na ul question them again about all the issue then they wont meet with you, then so you could talk things over and finish this issue na so everything will be ok na. Im just concerned for both you guys and philippe. -- sassykitty
 

 

 
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From:  "magpupusa" <magpupusa@yahoo.com>
Date:  Thu Sep 23, 2004  2:26 am
Subject:  Re: A transcript of text messages exchanged between me and Teresita Tong, Wednesday, September 22, 2004, p.m.


 

I understand your point, but to tell you honestly, after what happened to the banning, we never bother ourselves to have a contact with them. After a month, we received a txt message from Teresita tong and she wanted to have a conversation privately.

So we did, but the problem with her, she denied everything that we have talked about after one day, and she's saying that we
misinterpreted her. My Gosh!!! One of the things we told her was that we don't want to be associated with the club anymore and now, she txted again with these things. That's why it's very disappointing that an officer like her can do such things.

If only the members knew, in that conversation she told that the banning was Cristina's decision alone, and the board of directors have nothing to do with that. But Cristina is a part of the board of directors, she is the PRO of the CLub and her decision was also a part of the board. We txtd Cristina, but what we got from her??? Nothing. She even told to Carol(secretary of the Club) "Stop to email me or txt me, because i have a connection with the NTC, media and i can ruin the club, Me(phillippe) and John". What the hell. from the PRO of the club.

To tell you honestly, We have a copy of their By Laws and Articles, and we found out that there are so many things that they (board of directors) violated. You can read some in the previous messages. this is not the first time actually, pangalawa na kami sa binastos nila. Yes, may nauna pa saamin. So i think, it's not a coincidence, but a habit.


Kung hahayaan lang ito, may mga tao parin mababastos at mababastos uli. Yung sinabi mong hayaan na lang, ay nasabi na din namin sa taong unang binastos, pero iba pag andun ka pala sa position na ikaw na yung binastos nila.

I can even tell you yung mga words na sinabi ni WILLY STO NINO (vice president)against the members. It's really a devil's words that you guys wouldn't want to hear. I can tell how the president and the treasurer lied to us.


age is not of question, plus dedication for the club. Paano mapapatakbo ang club if all of them are busy???

Teresita Tong told us that "Sukang suka na kami sa position, gusto na namin itong pipasa" but when i told her why the election was delayed, and they (board of directors) don't even issued memo's to the members, this is what she answered me, "Sorry na lang Phillippe, nde kami nakapagissue ng memo, busy kasi kami."

We can forget what they told us, but we can't forget those words they said against our cat, PRINCESS. Okay lang kung kami lang, pero kung idamay yung pusa namin, ibang usapan na.
 

 

 
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From:  "Roumayne Juan" <roumayne@don-juans.com>
Date:  Thu Sep 23, 2004  2:44 am
Subject:  Re: [magpupusa] Re: A transcript of text messages exchanged between me and Teresita Tong, Wednesday, September 22, 2004, p.m.

 
 
Now TELL me sassy... WHY would they APOLOGIZE to the officers of FFPI?

 

Thanks for your concern.  I thought of posting the messages exchanged between me and Teresita Tong, because my fone isn’t high-tech enough to store so many messages, and to provide some sort of entertainment for the members of this group.  If the messages do more than entertain you guys, and they cause some people to step back and think…  “hmmmm…. What does these all mean?  Is this just an exchange of words from people who were formerly colleagues, who were previously so close as for John to be able to “penetrate” the elite group of the officers?  What does John have against the officers that he opts to discuss this in public?  More so, why bring it here in magpupusa where discussions are supposed to be light and entertaining and informative?...” then it has more than served its purpose.

By the way, since this forum, I believe, was created to give everybody a voice, then if anyone of you wants to cross-post the transcript to the other group so that she sure reads it and reacts, tell her that she’s welcome, because here, we don’t control or edit how an individual thinks; we certainly do not censor or ban anyone who disagrees with us.  We encourage thinking; critical thinking much more so.

Whew!!!  What a long prelude!  Forgive me, as I tend to be very opinionated about a lot of things.  I have been told, not just once, that if I were a cat, I would be a Siamese because I can go and talk on and on and on and on…   (get the drift? LOL) 

So, to answer you (as if I haven’t already started!  LOL)

 


Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:55 AM
To: magpupusa@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [magpupusa] Re: A transcript of text messages exchanged between me and Teresita Tong, Wednesday, September 22, 2004, p.m.

 

Hi John,

Just take it easy, be patient with the board coz you know most of them are in their 30's and 40's so u know some of them u have to understand na lang and disregard some of their messages, hayaan mo na!  ***That is precisely why I expect more from them.  In professionalism, in ethics, in plain and simple goodnaturedness… (if there’s even such a word, LOL I’m pretty sure there is such a concept!)  Ignoring them is in fact the easiest way to handle them, but since they are officers of the club which I once respected, I cannot just do it.  I cannot see evil and stay mum.  I cannot see filth and stay blind.  I cannot hear stupidity and not care.  I cannot smell something’s rotten and do nothing.  I know… masyado akong pakialamero!  LOL  Now, if anyone can translate it for our international members, hahahaha, but lem’me give it a shot…  “I AM CURIOUS LIKE A CAT, AND IT IS WHAT WILL KILL ME” nyeeee, is that right?  LOL

 

(i know its hard to forget what they have said and done to you guys but forgive them na lang, kill them with your humility hehe!!). I think what you guys should do is set up a meeting with them again, yes again, tell them youll apologize formally na lang so theyll meet up with u coz i know if youre going to tell them na ul question them again about all the issue then they wont meet with you, then so you could talk things over and finish this issue na so everything will be ok na. Im just concerned for both you guys and philippe. – sassykitty

***Well yeah, that’s what we’re doing actually.  Forget we were once associated with them, and we were doing our own stuff, and she’d text.  I can just ignore her because she’s ignorable anyway, but it’s not right.  She actually took an effort to say something that needs to be answered, as elementary ethics would dictate.  I wouldn’t want to kill them with my humility.  They will die even without my participation, LOL.  As for asking for forgiveness, I owe this to my cats, for being involved with people to say it is their welfare these people are after, but are doing the opposite things.  I owe it to the clubs members, for being so close to people in power that I began to be blind about the wrong things they were doing.  I owe it still to others who questioned their (officers) motives and who I reprimanded because I trusted the officers.  To them I apologize a hundred fold.  Will be buying some treats for my cats today to ask for their forgiveness J.

 

Honestly, I don’t care if they don’t want to meet.  I have expressed that I don’t want to meet or talk to anyone of them anyway.  I just care about members who are misled and their cats.  I am not asking that they apologize to me either.  I am demanding that they get their acts together or bust!  Busy-ness is not an excuse for being sloppy, for being complacent in their jobs, and worse, for ignoring things they should do.  And more importantly, not being paid for the job is not to be used an excuse for non-performance.  If they didn’t want to work pro bono, they shouldn’t have taken the challenge to become officers in the first place.  I still remember what my friends told me about the acceptance speech of one of the directors.  “Thank you.  It is just right that you vote for us again because we were the once who formed this club.”  I wish I was there to witness it for I would’ve replied.  “Yes, you were the once who formed the club, you “gave birth” to it.  But it’s our hard-earned money you are spending, and so you are answerable to us.”  Dang I really would’ve loved to say that to their faces.

 

I still have a lot of things to say, but I have to save them for later, so that we have something to look forward to.

 

Again, if anyone of you wants to invite them or crosspost this to felinefanciersphils, you’re welcome to do so.  Invite them here, so that they can answer my allegations and/or accusations.  In fact, tell them I challenge them.  Me against all of them who wants to join, or if they feel they could handle more, tell them face Phillippe and me. I promise we won’t prepare para may partido sila  (so that they’d have the advantage).  J

 

Wyldcat
 

 

 
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From:  Phillippe Chieng <magpupusa@yahoo.com>
Date:  Thu Sep 23, 2004  12:40 pm
Subject:  Re: [magpupusa] Re: A transcript of text messages exchanged between me and Teresita Tong, Wednesday, September 22, 2004, p.m.

 
lLet just say "there is one bag of fresh tomatoes, and you found out that there is one rotten tomato in the bag, what will you do" hypothetical, if you do not separate that rotten tomato, it will lead to a bag of rotten tomatoes, ryt? but if you act wisely, then you will have a bag full of fresh goldenred tomatoes. YUMMY...
 
Another, the ship is being orchestrated by the WISE CAPTAIN ryt? What if, storm comes along???
 
if the captain is busy enough not to realize that the ship is getting through the storm, the ship will sink most probably.
 
why im telling this??? because i already told that to TERESITA TONG in our phone conversation, but she only laughed at me and it seems that what im saying is not of any value to their so called CATCLUB.
 
So hearing those things from her, i realized that i'm in bag of rotten tomatoes and a ship orchestrated by a busy captain instead otherwise and i want to get out from it before it's too late.

 

 

 
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From:  "JOHN S. SUAREZ" <johnsuarez@yahoo.com>
Date:  Thu Sep 23, 2004  1:49 pm
Subject:  RE: [magpupusa] Re: A transcript of text messages exchanged between me and Teresita Tong, Wednesday, September 22, 2004, p.m.

 

Hello Mayne!

 I’m sure sassy just wants to preserve the peace there are ffpi.  And I am willing to apologize for being unable to control my anger, but not apologize for anything else.  What I did, divulged and said (not necessarily the manner in which I said them) were truths they either unintentionally overlooked or intentionally kept secret or downright ignored, so I don’t particularly care if they are angered by it (here I go again! Lol, at the rate I’m going, I’m gon’na lose my nine lives really really fast.  Hahahahahaha).

As I have said before, I just want them to get their acts together and really work for the welfare of all cats, which has been their buzzword.  Either they do that, or become obsolete and bust, or burst.  I’m ok any which way they go, LOL.

 

Regards,

Wyldcat

 

 
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Date:  Thu Sep 23, 2004  10:13 pm
Subject:  Re: A transcript of text messages exchanged between me and Teresita Tong, Wednesday, September 22, 2004, p.m.

 
--- In magpupusa@yahoogroups.com, Phillippe Chieng <magpupusa@y...>
wrote:

> So hearing those things from her, i realized that i'm in bag of
rotten tomatoes and a ship orchestrated by a busy captain instead
otherwise and i want to get out from it before it's too late.

Yes... The saying here is "One bad apple will spoil the barrel." I
am still trying to fight for member's rights in the bad cat club I
belong to, but I have also joined another cat club...and may well
let my membership in the first club lapse. When the dictators are
so entrenched that they ignore their own rules regarding elections,
there may not be much that can be done (in a practical sense).

Spotcatt
 

 

 

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